The journey to find a pleasant "physical" based, inorganic, sunscreen is an ongoing struggle. Even though all brands who use only Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide in their sun protection products say it will leave no white cast, the reality is usually far from true. A'PIEU's Madecassoside Sun Cream SPF 39 PA++ has surprised me in many ways during its run in my routine. Of the SPF I have tried so far, it is a rare one that gets closer to what I wish an inorganic sunscreen could be.
A'PIEU's description:
Anti-wrinkle & brightening, multi-functional cosmetic, skin sensitivity test completed. Madecassosside sun cream soothes and repairs skin as well as protect it from UV rays.
Madecassosside: repairs skin, calms sensitivity, strengthens skin, brightens skin, anti-wrinkle
It is a component of Centella extract, known for its soothing and repairing properties. Even sensitive skin types can use it without concerns, absolutely chemical free, pure cream.
This cream contains an extra 40% of Centella extract additional to the Madecassosside. Light cream applies on softly, leaving no white residue and absorbing quickly.
Directions
At the last step of your skincare routine, apply the needed amount onto face and gently pat to aid absorption.
Apply onto the neck, arms, and legs, or any areas that are more frequently exposed to the sun. Continuously apply if sun exposure prolongs.
Apply multiple thin layers to create a more effective and stronger barrier against the sun.
Ingredients
CENTELLA ASIATICA LEAF WATER, CYCLOPENTASILOXANE, DIBUTYL ADIPATE, WATER(AQUA), DIPROPYLENE GLYCOL, CYCLOHEXASILOXANE, TITANIUM DIOXIDE, ZINC OXIDE, PHENYL TRIMETHICONE, PEG-10 DIMETHICONE, HYDROGENATED POLY(C6-14 OLEFIN), NIACINAMIDE, ALUMINUM HYDROXIDE, SODIUM CHLORIDE, STEARIC ACID, DIMETHICONE, DISTEARDIMONIUM HECTORITE, BEESWAX(CERA ALBA), CETYL PEG/PPG-10/1 DIMETHICONE, DIMETHICONE/VINYL DIMETHICONE CROSSPOLYMER, GLYCERYL CAPRYLATE, CHLORPHENESIN, TRIETHOXYCAPRYLYLSILANE, OENOTHERA BIENNIS (EVENING PRIMROSE) FLOWER EXTRACT, CITRUS GRANDIS (GRAPEFRUIT) PEEL OIL, MADECASSOSIDE, DISODIUM EDTA, ADENOSINE, CITRUS LIMON (LEMON) PEEL OIL, GLYCERIN, ASIATICOSIDE, LAVANDULA HYBRIDA OIL, PELARGONIUM GRAVEOLENS FLOWER OIL, CITRUS NOBILIS (MANDARIN ORANGE) PEEL OIL, JUNIPERUS MEXICANA OIL, SODIUM HYALURONATE, 1,2-HEXANEDIOL
Sunscreen 40 g
A'PIEU (Korean retail): ₩9,000
Missha: USD $15.00
oo35mm: USD $14.99
BeautyBoxKorea: USD $9.53
RoseRoseShop: USD $7.89
Packaging
A flexible, opaque tube with a twist-off cap and pointed nozzle tip. There is no inner seal and the box that came with the sunscreen did not have a security seal/sticker either. This can be concerning but I think it is somewhat easy to tell if the product has been tampered with since a new tube feels filled to the brim with sunscreen.
Color, Texture, Finish, & Scent
Sun "cream" may not be the best descriptor. While the product that comes out of the tube looking like a traditional white UV filter, the textural similarity end there once it is blended in. This sunscreen is very lightweight and has a consistency closer to a lotion. It spreads easily but does get some streaky strokes until the product is fully smoothed into the skin (as what body lotions typically do). I won't say there is absolutely no white cast, especially when used in larger amounts and in a concentrated area, but of all the "mineral" sunscreens I have tried so far the white cast for this is very very minimal.
Unlike other Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide based products, this doesn't leave a dry matte finish; perhaps the best term would be satin matte, a.k.a. matte with a tiny bit of sheen. If I run my hands over wherever it is placed, I get no transfer but I do feel that something is there. Water seems to repel off the skin after application but I wouldn't say it is super waterproof. There is a tendency to catch onto dry patches and textural bumps. It has a strong citrus scent, almost household cleanser-like, straight out of the tube and while blending; luckily that smell is almost unnoticeable once it dissipates.
How I Apply
To be clear, I am not advertising this as the "correct" amount to apply for sufficient SPF 50 protection.
Squeeze a line directly from the tube onto my forehead, a line across each cheek, two lines for my neck and one for my chest. Use only a finger or two to pat and even distribute the lines in their respective areas. Then lightly swipe and rub the product into my skin.
Squeeze 4 lines of product from the tube onto my forefinger, middle, ring, and pinky fingers. Use the other hand to lightly rub the product against the corresponding fingers to create an even layer. Pat across my face and lightly swipe/rub until blended. Repeat with 2-3 more lines of product for neck and chest.
Thoughts & Recommendations
The difference between the protection percentage of SPF 30 and SPF 50 may only be 1% (97% versus 98%) but a huge factor in whether our skin gets the said coverage depends on how well we apply sunscreen. Anything above SPF 50 is even more marginal of a difference. This is the main reason why I choose products with SPF 50, to compensate for when I don't apply enough sunscreen so that extra percentage will be of some help.
I made an exception when I decided to buy the Madecassoside Sun Cream. Had it not swatched so well on my hand in the store, I honestly wouldn't have given it a second glance looking online only. My logic was if it could apply with such minimal white cast in larger amounts on the face I wouldn't hesitate to put the correct amount of sunscreen on for the full 97% protection.
Thankfully, my choice was not for naught. I could apply a full four fingers' lengths worth and my face doesn't turn a stark white or pink tone. It isn't overly drying and mattifying which is a huge welcome to my now less oily skin. While it isn't the most waterproof/water resistant sunscreen I have tried, it isn't too shabby either. The sunscreen stays in place all day, even against sun, wind, rain, oil, and tears, without disturbing my makeup or irritating my eyes. I have yet to experience any skin tans or burns in the areas I have applied it.
A'PIEU's claims for anti-wrinkle and brightening may be a stretch. But who am I to say when I have only used this for a couple of months at most. If anything the anti-wrinkle and brightening effect comes as a benefit of just wearing the sunscreen more in general than because of madecassoside's antioxidant properties. I can say this Sun Cream did not feel heavy nor clogged my pores to cause further acne. Whether it helps with long-term skin repair is hard to say with just one tube.
My biggest gripe with the sunscreen lies with the unpleasant smell straight out of the tube. I think it smells like ammoniated citrus bathroom cleanser. If the scent lingered for any longer than it does now I would definitely have abandoned the tube long ago. The second negative is the sizing. 40g is much smaller than normal (sunscreens tend to be at least 50 g or 50 ml). Given the price US retailers sell it for, which is closer to USD $15 than the less than USD $9 at Korean retail, it calculates to be quite pricey. A third con would be the low PA rating despite it having both Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide. Both in conjunction are known to provide good protection against both UVA and UVB yet the SPF and PA of the Sun Cream are much lower than expected. This only leads me to question how much of the sun protectors are actually in it.
Madecassoside Sun Cream isn't the perfect, end all be all, "physical" sunscreen. People talk a lot about cosmetic elegance now and I think it is a great way to describe this texture. It is a product I like to apply because it spreads and blends well without irritating my eyes. The least cosmetically elegant thing about it would just be the scent yet that is a personal preference kind of thing. I would recommend this for those who want something fuss-free in the mornings and isn't too picky about the numbers on the packaging. All skin types should like it but those with very dry and/or flaky skin may want to exfoliate well before use to get optimal results. People with sensitive skin should be careful since there are a few essential oils in its formulation.
When a makeup artist who is known for her dedication to a creating the perfect, clear, and translucent skin base comes out with a skincare range and sun protection products, in particular, I am unsurprisingly more than willing to blindly try them. Its SPF ingredients were unknown to me at the point of purchase and I only knew the texture of JUNGSAEMMOL's Pre-tect Sun Waterfull SPF50+ PA++++ and Extreme SPF50+ PA+++ through their Instagram posts. After months of using both bottles, there are some aspects of both I am excited to share and others I wish could have been a little different.
JUNGSAEMMOOL's description:
Both have:
Bamboo Water - Soothe and calm irritated skin
Cottonseed Extracts - Keeps moisture in balance and controls excess sebum
Edelweiss Extracts - Locks in moisture
Waterfull
Double Boosting Sun Care
Waterfull not only delivers high protection to shield the skin from harmful UV rays but also is formulated to prime the face for makeup.
High UV Block
With powerfully upgraded PA++++, waterfull guards skin against harmful UV rays.
Moist and Fresh Finish
5 types of hyaluronic acids and 50% of water burst to keep skin moisturized in the hot weather. (Hydrolyzed glycosaminogylcan, Sodium hyaluronate crosspolymer, Hydrolyzed hyaluronic acid, Hyaluronic acid, and Sodium hyaluronate)
Optimal Moisture Balance
Lightweight lotion type texture enables moisture burst and quick absorption as you apply it in a rolling motion.
Formulated Without
6 types of paraben (methylparaben, ethylparaben, propylparaben, isopropylparaben, butylparaben, isobutylparaben), chlrorphenesin, triethanolamine, phenoxyethanol
Extreme
Double Boosting Sun Care
Waterproof suncare not only delivers high protection to shield the skin from harmful UV rays but also is formulated to prime the face for the makeup.
Waterproof Effect
Water-proof formula with moisturizing and lightweight creamy texture enables long-lasting makeup without smudging from sweat and excess sebum.
Mild and Moisture Care
With its soothing and nourishing formula, bamboo water provides deep hydration and relieves sun-damaged skin.
Face and Body Multi Use
Non-sticky texture that applies effortlessly may also use on the body.
Formulated Without
6 types of paraben (methylparaben, ethylparaben, propylparaben, isopropylparaben, butylparaben, isobutylparaben), chlorphenesin, triethanolamine
Directions
On the last step of the skincare, apply Waterfull/Extreme evenly on the face following the skin texture. When using the product, keep out of eyes. Extreme can be applied on the body as needed.
Ingredients
Waterfull
PURIFIED WATER, DENATURED ALCOHOL, ETHYLHEXYL METHOXYCINNAMATE (OCTINOXATE), HOMOSALATE, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, ETHYLHEXYL SALICYLATE (OCTISALATE), DIETHYLAMINO HYDROXYBENZOYL HEXYL BENZOATE (UNIVUL A PLUS), PHENETHYL BENZOATE, PROPANEDIOL, BIS-ETHYLHEXYLOXYPHENOL METHOXYPHENYL TRIAZINE (TINOSORB S), POLYSILICONE-15, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, METHYL METHACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, POLYMETHYLSILSESQUIOXANE, SODIUM ACRYLATE/SODIUM ACRYLOYLDIMETHYL TAURATE COPOLYMER, GLYCERIN, ISOHEXADECANE, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, CYCLOPENTASILOXANE, BEHENETH-25, ORANGE OIL, DIMETHICONE, POLYSORBATE 80, ACRYLATES COPOLYMER, HYDROGENATED LECITHIN, LAVENDER OIL, DIMETHICONE/VINYL DIMETHICONE CROSSPOLYMER, SUCROSE DISTEARATE, SORBITAN OLEATE, DISODIUM EDTA, BAMBOO WATER, SODIUM HYALURONATE CROSSPOLYMER, DIPROPYLENE GLYCOL, HYDROLYZED GLYCOSAMINOGLYCAN, SODIUM HYALURONATE, EDELWEISS FLOWER/LEAF EXTRACT, BENZYL GLYCOL, HYDROLYZED HYALURONIC ACID, ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, COTTONSEED EXTRACTS, HYALURONIC ACID, RASPBERRY KETONE
Extreme (Waterproof)
PURIFIED WATER, ETHYLHEXYL METHOXYCINNAMATE
(OCTINOXATE), BUTYLENE GLYCOL, ETHYLHEXYL SALICYLATE (OCTISALATE), BUTYL METHOXYDIBENZOYLMETHANE (AVOBENZONE), HOMOSALATE, OCTOCRYLENE, PHENETHYL BENZOATE, BIS-ETHYLHEXYLOXYPHENOL METHOXYPHENYL TRIAZINE (TINOSORB S), ACRYLATES COPOLYMER, ARACHIDYL ALCOHOL, CETOSTEARYL ALCOHOL, ETHYLHEXYL TRIAZONE (UVINUL T 150), BEHENYL ALCOHOL, GLYCERYL STEARATE, PEG-100 STEARATE, ARACHIDYL GLUCOSIDE, PHENOXYETHANOL, FRAGRANCE, GLYCERYL CAPRYLATE, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, ACRYLATES/C10-30 ALKYL ACRYLATE CROSSPOLYMER, CYCLOPENTASILOXANE, DIMETHICONE, POLYSILICONE-11, TROMETHAMINE, DEHYDROXANTHAN GUM, HYDROGENATED LECITHIN, DISODIUM EDTA, BAMBOO WATER, GLYCERIN, DIPROPYLENE GLYCOL, GLYCERYL CITRATE/LACTATE/LINOLEATE/ OLEATE, HEXANEDIOL, SODIUM PALMITOYL PROLINE, WATER LILY FLOWER EXTRACT, EDELWEISS FLOWER/LEAF EXTRACT, GOSSYPIUM HERBACEUM (COTTONSEED) EXTRACT
Waterfull 50 ml / 2.53 fl oz
JUNGSAEMMOL (Korean retail): ₩38,000
JUNGSAEMMOL (American retail): USD $41.86
Extreme 70 ml / 6.76 fl oz
JUNGSAEMMOL (Korean retail): ₩35,000
JUNGSAEMMOL (American retail): USD $38.55
Packaging
The choice of packaging works well with the formulation of each respective sunscreen. Both sunscreens come in squeeze-type bottles but Waterfull has a thick and rigid plastic with a pointy nozzle for its more fluid sunscreen while Extreme is soft and pliable plastic with a blunt tip for its thicker sunscreen. It seems that only the Extreme has a protective sticker seal, at least for my order.
My only gripe would be they aren't even a little bit translucent. I prefer to be able to see how much product remains inside as I use something. It would have been especially for great for the Waterfull bottle because I can't physically see and feel the bottle shrinking like I could with Extreme.
Color, Texture, Finish, & Scent
The pictures I took don't quite do the color justice for Waterfull, which in reality has a slight pastel yellow tinge. It feels and spreads like a watery gel serum (if that makes any sense) and blends out to be clear. When used in large amounts, as one should for sunscreen, my skin gets a very dewy and has a shiny look. There isn't a tacky finish left behind yet if touched and pressed against, there will be a residual transfer. If used in lesser amounts, my skin has a nice sheen without being overwhelmingly "greasy". The initial scent is a strong powdery-clean yet floral perfume-like that becomes less noticeable.
Extreme is accurately captured in the photos because it is indeed a stark white color. Fear not though this doesn't mean it leaves a white cast. (How could it when it is a "chemical" sunscreen?) Extreme has a very thick yet mousse-like consistency straight out of the tube. It takes a while to rub in and does become streaky as I am rubbing but, in time, does eventually blend into the skin and is clear in "color". Similar to Waterfull, Extreme leaves a very dewy and shiny look if using larger amounts, has a slight sheen in lesser amounts, and has the same clean yet floral scent.
How I Apply
To be clear, I am not advertising this as the "correct" amount to apply for sufficient SPF 50 protection.
Squeeze the sunscreens directly from the bottle onto my face. I draw one line across my forehead, one line across each cheek, and one to two fingers worth for my neck and chest. Sometimes I like to rub the product to spread. Other times I like to pat each line until the product is evenly distributed and absorbed.
Squeeze the sunscreens from the bottle onto my index, middle, ring, and pinky finger on one hand and gently rub it against my other hand to slightly warm up the product and create an even thin layer. Pat the sunscreen onto my face and neck while trying to evenly apply.
Because of the textures, I typically prefer the first method for Waterfull and the second method for Extreme. But I did use the second method for both for a long time until I realized I might be losing sunscreen to the additional surface area of both my hands as opposed to putting the product straight onto my face and only using a finger or two to spread or pat.
Thoughts & Recommendations
Since I had no preconceived prejudiced against the sunscreens because of what their ingredients were, I could enjoy the "chemical" formulations for what they are: moisturizing and dewy sun protectors that make for a great makeup base. It was a pleasant surprise when I did find out both of these sunscreens include UV filters that aren't common in American products, Uvinul A Plus and Tinosorb S. These still aren't for those hoping to be able to use a cosmetical elegant sunscreen without the "bad" filters (whether you believe it to be bad for health or environment) because the Uvinul and Tinosorb are in addition to more typical American ingredients and not in replacement of.
The formulations and application of the two sunscreens may be different but the end results are nearly identical. When I first squeezed both sunscreens onto my hands, I was immediately surprised by the textures of both. I almost couldn't believe how easy it was to blend Waterfull and a little intimidated by the thick consistency of Extreme. However, after both are fully worked into the skin they ultimately leave the same finish and feel.
These are great for wearing under makeup and doesn't cause makeup to get cakey at all. I love how both keep my drier/flakier patches at bay throughout the day (as long as I don't rub and pick at it). Oilier skin people would probably not enjoy these because the dewy/sheen does not go away. Powdering does help to make the finish less shiny but it isn't a true matte look.
JUNGSAEMMOOL markets the Extreme version to be waterproof (it says so on the packaging). I wouldn't say it to be true, especially when compared to "mineral" based sunscreens with Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide that basically repel water. Both Waterfull and Extreme wash away under running water; the difference comes where Extreme requires the gentlest rubbing to fully clean it off while Waterfull is even more effortless.
JUNGSAEMMOOL actually says to "Avoid contact with eyes" on the packaging; of course one would not put these products into their eyeballs, but I wonder if they also mean to not go anywhere near the eyelids and undereye area as well? Either way, both sunscreens do not irritate or sting my eyes upon immediate application near my eyes. As time goes on, when my skin oils and/or sweat starts to mix with the sunscreen and migrate closer towards the inner corner of my eyes both Waterfull and Extreme both cause a stinging sensation and gets teary. I can confidently say it is the sunscreens and not anything else in my routine because this does not happen with the more water resistant "mineral" sunscreens. It doesn't bother me much when I am inside and in a controlled environment but when things like wind, sun, and heat gets thrown into the mix I know to keep some tissues handy to immediately wipe my eye area clean.
I cannot say that these are the best products for the price range. At ~USD $40, plus and minus some for either, JUNGSAEMMOOL's Pre-Tect Sun Waterfull and Pre-Tect Sun Extreme are definitely higher-end sun protection. However, for the price to product given ratio, I would say the Extreme is more affordable. You get the same finish as Waterfull with a little more water resistance but it requires a little more time to work into the skin. For those who don't mind the price and would like something that is quicker and more reapplication friendly, Waterfull is definitely the way to go.
With the skincare diet trend going around, I was super intrigued by the possibility of condensing my typically two-part cleansing routine to just one step with the ECO YOUR SKIN Oil to Foam Cleanser. Both categories of products have their own merits and functions but saving time is always on the back of my mind. The concept is pretty new and not many brands have anything like it. After finishing the entire bottle of cleanser I think I can safely say it is an idea which isn't quite there yet.
Peach & Lily's description:
Instead of relying on sulfates, this cleanser utilizes coconut fruit extract as the natural cleansing agent to create suds that are rich yet mild on skin. Micro-bubbles help deep clean pores of makeup, residue and sunscreen. Aromatic oils like wild geranium and Moroccan wild chamomile help boost hydration so skin is left perfectly balanced and clean.
Directions
Apply the foam onto dry skin and massage gently before rinsing with tepid water. Optional: leave the foam on for 2 minutes as necessary to brighten skin tone.
Ingredients
CARBONATED WATER, WATER, TEA-COCOYL GLUTAMATE, GLYCERIN, PEG-7 GLYCERYL COCOATE, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, METHYLPROPANEDIOL, POTASSIUM COCOYL GLYCINATE, COCAMIDOPROPYL BETAINE, COCAMIDE DEA, 1,2-HEXANEDIOL, BETAINE, PENTYLENE GLYCOL, CAPRYLYL GLYCOL, CALENDULA OFFICINALIS FLOWER WATER, GERANIUM MACULATUM OIL, ORMENIS MULTICAULIS OIL, ALOE BARBADENSIS LEAF EXTRACT, CUCUMIS SATIVUS (CUCUMBER) FRUIT EXTRACT, CAMELLIA SINENSIS LEAF EXTRACT, LEONURUS SIBIRICUS FLOWER/LEAF/STEM EXTRACT, ALGAE EXTRACT, CAULERPA LENTILLIFERA EXTRACT, ENTEROMORPHA COMPRESSA EXTRACT, UNDARIA PINNATIFIDA EXTRACT, ECKLONIA CAVA EXTRACT, POLYSORBATE20, ALLANTOIN, DIPOTASSIUM GLYCYRRHIZATE, ETHYLHEXYLGLYCERIN, CITRIC ACID, ASPALATHUS LINEARIS EXTRACT, GLYCYRRHIZA GLABRA (LICORICE) ROOT EXTRACT, CI 42090, CI 19140
Cleanser 170 ml
ECO YOUR SKIN (Korean retail): ₩30,000
Peach & Lily: USD $34.00
Packaging
New bottles of cleanser come in a sealed box to ensure its safety. The foaming pump bottle is fairly standard and does a great job at dispensing uniformly aerated bubbles. See-through packaging is always a plus in my books. ECO YOUR SKIN also paid attention to the small details such as having the tube inside be curved to allow every last drop of cleanser to be used.
Color, Texture, Finish, & Scent
While the liquid inside the bottle is a bright green color, the foam that comes out is mostly white with a slight tinge of green. Unlike the foam created by foaming nets and cups, this pumping mechanism produces a very light and airy lather which means it also tends to deflate quickly. The cleanser has a very strong and lingering herby scent due to all the extracts and essential oils.
Foam on clean/bare skin will stay fluffy until it is rubbed onto the skin. Interestingly, foam on dirty/product-laden skin will immediately dissipate into a runny liquid texture. Perhaps this is due to the surfactants in its formulation? The cleanser ultimately washes away easily without leaving the skin too tight or dry. Whether there is leftover product residue depends widely on what I am trying to cleanse off (skincare only versus light- versus heavy makeup).
How I Apply
1. Use after removing makeup/waterproof sunscreen with cleansing balm or oil.
2. Make sure my hands and face are mostly dry.
3. Pump 5-6 times into the palm of my hands.
4. Transfer onto my face and slowly massage all over.
5. Rinse well.
Thoughts & Recommendations
Even the name "Oil to Foam Cleanser" kind of seems to suggest the product to be a 2-in-1. However, the Peach & Lily ladies at the sample sale last year suggested it is to be used how I would any other foaming cleanser—after a makeup remover and not in place of one. The ingredients don't suggest it is oil based either, instead carbonated water and water are the top-most components. The others that follow are mainly surfactants and solvents. "Oils" only show up in the form of a couple of essential oils (geranium and chamomile) further down the list.
Therefore, using it as a water-based cleanser is precisely how I emptied most of the bottle of cleanser liquid. I like the product a lot in this manner. The foam definitely makes cleansing a more gentle and lush-feeling process. I would prefer if the bubbles were denser though because it dissipates too fast. Otherwise, it removes cleansing balm residue well without stripping my face and had no bad skin reactions. I can't say if it stings my eyes or not because I tend to keep them shut until it is completely rinsed off.
There were a few times I gave it the duty of cleaning waterproof, "mineral" sunscreen off my hands after application. It surprisingly works very well for the task—far more efficient than a typical hand soap but not as heavy-duty nor messy as a cleansing oil.
On an occasion or two, I tested it for any makeup cleansing abilities on light makeup days. I cannot say I was disappointed because I honestly didn't expect it to remove much. Let's just say I would not recommend it as a replacement for any removing liquid, oil, or balm.
I think a big factor in whether someone would like this particular product or not lies in the small details:
- You have to think of it as a water-based, post-makeup remover cleanser.
- The auto-foaming ability is nice and saves some time from having to manually create the suds.
- Less dense foam means a shorter cleansing time, which can be a good or bad thing.
- The smell isn't terrible but can be overwhelming since it lingers for as long as it is on the face.
- One bottle of liquid foaming cleanser doesn't last nearly as long as a tube of non-liquid cleanser.
Unfortunately, consolidating my cleansing routine in such a manner won't be happening any time soon. It did reopen my eyes to the world of self-foaming cleansers. Perhaps if I were to try another one it'd be a less expensive and less fragranced (even if "natural") option.
